Good find Onetrack,I`d guess the primemover to be a White.They where very popular with the bus operators here,and the couple of survivors I`ve seen recently have both been Whites.I`ve seen K and KB`s as buses,and the later ones,AL etc as side loaders.

Back on the thread with semi-buses again .. I believe that this pic shows one of the Articulated buses during construction .. at TMC Trailers (Trailer Manufacturing Co P/L), 712-722 Botany Rd, Mascot .. and I'd hazard a guess that the prime mover is an Inter ..

acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemLarge.aspx?itemID=28024

acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemLarge.aspx?itemID=28023

acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemLarge.aspx?itemID=28025

acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemLarge.aspx?itemID=28026

Back on the thread with semi-buses again .. I believe that this pic shows one of the Articulated buses during construction .. at TMC Trailers (Trailer Manufacturing Co P/L), 712-722 Botany Rd, Mascot .. and I'd hazard a guess that the prime mover is an Inter ..

acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemLarge.aspx?itemID=28024

acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemLarge.aspx?itemID=28023

acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemLarge.aspx?itemID=28025

acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemLarge.aspx?itemID=28026

Swishy, Onetrack,

Great minds think alike:




Cutting down the Rogers was a popular mod in Israel during the 50s and the IDF converted most of theirs.

Pics are directed from www.mheaust.com.au/index.html but originally taken by Col. Toviah Milner, CO of the IDF's first heavy transport batalion, sometime in 1967 just before war broke out.

The Diamond T was the standard IDF tank transporter. Yes, they did put Centurions on them and that's why they changed to Contractors later... The Sherman are Israeli M51s with French 105mm cannons and Cummins VT8-460 diesels.

Anyone asking, the B81 dog is 6X6 but civvy street on "reserve duty service", one of two imported and owned by a heavy transport firm specialising in off-road haulage.

The Acar is also a civilian one requisitioned by the army - it was a part of the Gov't owned Sollel-Bon

Sorry to hijack this thread bout semi bus
but
too L8 now
we well n truly off topic
LOL


Juan Track
GuddayM8
Gr8 pix n linked pix (U ol pirate U)
Me never seen the type of Rogers U had

the lower pic with the loaded tank is wot me ol man bought 3 of
it was quite common back then (50's - 60's)
to buy @ Govt auctions them tank transporters to grab the suspension n wheels to make big floats out of
we still have 12 rogers wheels on running gear today
with a backup supply of 24 plus a few suspensions
can remember when our 1st big float twaz being bilt
my job twaz to file all the 'S' cams as they were a flat aggresive cam n file them to a gentle curve
as we had no rightangle grinder way back when

very interesting ol trailer

cya

I should have enlarged on my previous post. The pic that Swish posted, is of an Model M9 Rogers trailer .. and coupled with the Diamond T Model 980, the combination was called the M19 Transporter.

My old float was originally a single row of 8, Rogers. When it was cut down, another axle was added to make it a tandem. I don't know what the original Model designation of the single row of 8 Rogers trailer, was.

I've done a Swishy and purloined a couple of pics from WW2, showing the single row of 8 Rogers, as it was originally. The building of these single row trailers, was rapidly abandoned in favour of the two rows of 8, with a front dolly, Model M9 .. as the size of the tanks increased rapidly during WW2.

Interestingly, the engineered load limit of the M9 was 40 tons .. yet there's a pic here of a Rogers M9 carrying a Centurion from Woomera in 1959 .. and Centurion runs from 52 tonnes to around 58 tonnes in full kit ..

Swishy - The old Rogers in the pic with the R-190 has been severely modified .. with 18" cut out of the centre, the centre rear wheels removed .. and the outside duals joined by heavy wall pipe, to make it into a standard 8' wide, tandem float. It still weighed 8 tons! .. and it was reputed to have carried Mick Caratti's D9's in the late 1950's and early 1960's.

I can't tell ya where the Cheetah or LandLiner ended up .. but I sure do know where the Rogers is .. she still lives, and she has now been converted to a tri, with the addition of a third axle .. just showing you that well-built stuff, never dies ..

The Rogers in your pic is a different design to mine, with mine having a lot more drop in the gooseneck .. and the big, original, steering-wheel-style winder for the handbrake ..

Dom
GuggayM8

Good to B read n u're stories

But i'ma pixture man
so cut to the chase n put up sum pix

Az they say
A pixture worth a million wordz ( give or take a cupla duzen)

GiveTillItHurtz

LOL

JuanTrack
GuddayM8

The Ol inter had a load to start off with
coz them ol X Army rodgers were heavy


Ol Rogers trailer jist a clik away
armycarsusa.com/rogers_trailer.htm


Big C
GuddayM8

RE: it ended up in WA.Where is it today

Everything th@ NQR ends up over on the left

NQR = Not Qite Right

LOL

cya

Dom, the R-190 had 160 HP gross and 145 HP net, and yes, an R190 was my first truck, too .. and I can still remember running out of gears on steep pinches, and having to unload the Cat D6, to get to the top of the hill!! ..

The Merc had 180HP, and they were definitely a classy rig in the days of petrol R-190's. Here's one that's a giveaway .. you can start restoring your old dream, now!! LOL

perth.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Mot...r-W0QQAdIdZ159576836

Here's my old R-190, dragging the converted, and cut down, Rogers float .. with the D6 behind, and the old S2 Landrover traytop on the right. The machine on the back of the float is a Mallee Root Ripper, built by Pedericks in Wagin.

The little bloke standing on the seat of the Inter, hanging onto the steering wheel, is 43 in a couple of months time!!

Dom, start a thread and just bang down any stories as they come to you. We'll love to read about your life.

Look forward to hearing more from you.

Thanks Blokes for all the information. Its amazed me of how much knowledge you have still My friend is negotiating with an owner of one and hopes to purchase it soon.
I have enjoyed your web site and will have to get more involved.
I retired after over 30 years in the transport industry. I bought my first semi when I was 25 and that was an Inter R190, when a Benz 1418 would go past me I would drool. How many HP did they have compared to today???.
I drove Coaches for Ansett-Pioneer for years and went back to semi's later on fuel tankers doing 5 states out of Adelaide.
Thats all for now, plenty of stories to tell.
Cheers.

Rover Coaches have a pic on their website, of a Jailbar Ford dragging a semi bus .. that has tandems on the bus body. They must have thought big, down at Rover Coaches, in 1944 ..

www.rovercoaches.com.au/aboutus/history.htm

Here's some bus and semi-trailer bus nostalgia .. one Bert Bond ran a fleet of buses out of Adelaide, running services and tours from SA to the NT, as well as QLD, VIC & NSW as well. The only states he never ran were W.A. & Tassie.

There's some great pics here from the late 1940's and early 1950's from one of their drivers .. and Bonds appeared to have had several semi-trailer buses ..

It appears that Bond also owned a coach-building business, so the semi's were likely to be of his own design ..
The full Bond story is on the last pic of this group ..

www.pictureaustralia.org/apps/pictureaus...ny+field&mode=search

Hopefully, the mongrel of a thing got scrapped! I note that the T'Othersiders licencing mob wouldn't let it back on the road, after a couple of incidents .. such was its dodgy steering system!

So .. they decided to send it to us poor dumb buggers in the West, where it ran Kalgoorlie to Perth for a while. However, there must have been a few steering "incidents" that warranted another investigation by the West Oz licencing mob. The conclusion they reached, was that it was O.K., provided the maintenance regime was strict.
Now .. this was in the days when one drove a truck or bus until it ran out of brakes .. then you drove it a little more, before you decided to get 'em fixed ..

I would hazard a guess that that mongrel thing met an early demise, and found its way into Krasnosteins scrap yard, and went to Japan by the early 1960's. It probably came back in the form of a Jap tin toy bus .. which was probably a whole lot safer than the original.

Somewhere, in the depths of my fading memory cells .. I recall coming across a pic of this similar setup, being tested .. with a bunch of "Nobs" on board .. and the truck and the bus chassis were just bare bones framework, before it was plated with tinwork. I got the impression, the makers were trying to impress the "Nobs", how good their idea was .. :

I read somewhere it had the 2, V8`s side by side.The steering wheel was in the centre,and it had hydraulics to articulate the prime mover.It was built in VIC,but the government got shakey on letting it on the road,and it ended up in WA.Where is it today?

I've seen it somewhere before as well but can't place it.